Comments on: It could work: a 3rd party email client for OS X

By: Alec Kinnear

Alec Kinnear — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:20:53 +0000

I'd agree about the hardcore user still being on Eudora.

I've tried everything else, but only Eudora manages two dozen personalities competently with 10,000 of emails in (quickly) searchable archives over a decade.

Nothing.

Totally customiseable as well.

Alas, it doesn't look like Thunderbird/Penelope will get the job done.

Eudora is still open source now. Somebody should just dive in and rescue the best of Eudora, put a Cocoa wrapper on it and throw a webkit browser into it to handle HTML and unicode.

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Free Nights and Weekends » The real problem with Mail Clients - Use Cases — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:57:36 +0000

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By: michael-mccracken.net » Free advice about a pro email client

michael-mccracken.net » Free advice about a pro email client — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:54:56 +0000

[...] If you’re thinking of writing a commercially successful pro email client for Mac OS X, here’s some advice along the lines of what I wrote yesterday: [...]

By: Michael Ströck

Michael Ströck — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:02:37 +0000

What we need is 5 really good Objective C programmer's spending a "Google Summer Plus Autumn of Code" writing the basics (i.e. the hard part) of an Open Source, dead-simple, email counterpart to WebKit. I haven't had an in-depth look at MailCore yet, so I don't know wether it would be possible to start from there. But for God's sake, this has to happen.

Maybe we should start a high-profile community project and do some marketing to get developers and financial backing for them? Lobby independent Mac developers to put some money into this? Just throwing ideas around...

By: The state of email at Ronge

The state of email at Ronge — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:54:36 +0000

[...] It could work: a 3rd party email client for OS X [...]

By: Ted

Ted — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:36:13 +0000

I’ll second Correo. It’s only at a 0.2 release, but now is the time to get involved if you would like to contribute and mold it in the Email client that everyone is lusting after. I’ve emailed Nik about contributing to it, and he’s open to collaborations.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:36:03 +0000

Apple Mail sucks less than anything else. I wouldn’t use a mail app that doesn’t integrate with OS X’s address book.

By: Andre Pang

Andre Pang — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:24:16 +0000

Nice post Mike. I actually seriously considered writing a to-sell email client only last week, but decided against it only because I'd be spending months writing so many basic frameworks. Email standards are dreadfully important and boring to get right, and take a very long time to get robust: IMAP, RFC822, SMTP, and even just parsing mbox and Maildir properly without going mad. If were were a standard, robust MailKit framework around that handled all the gory details, I think you'd start seeing as many email clients around as Twitter clients. I think there's good money to be made here: PowerMail, GyazMail, Eudora and MailSmith are all still going strong, and they suck as much as Apple Mail, only in different ways.

Correo may be a solution in a year or two, but I fear that the Camino and Thunderbird code base they're inheriting is going to substantially affect their future development. (I have nothing against Camino nor Thunderbird as a user, but I've seen some of the innards of the code. As a spoiled Cocoa developer brat, I'd certainly want to stay as far away from it as possible.)

I can just feel Steven Frank looking at these threads trying to come up with a new Panic application codename. C'mon Steven, we'd all buy it :). (Hey, you made a kickass application for FTP, one of the crappiest and most mundane protocols of all time! Email's surely not much harder...)

By: Cam

Cam — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:02:14 +0000

For an email client, I just want an Aquafied Pine. Plain text browser that offloads any media to helper apps.

Integration with AddressBook is fine, but not required.

I want it to support IMAP and Kerberos.

I would pay for it.

By: someguy

someguy — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:24:06 +0000

Correo looks promising. http://nkreeger.com/correo/ Free, apple-ized, address book integration, mozilla imap engine…